– Hey guys, Scott and Nate
from PlayYourCourt.com and today we’re gonna show you how to beat the dreaded junk baller. (intro theme) [Scott] (grunts) [Scott] So weird. (grunts) (grunts) [Scott] God, you’re so annoying. (grunts) [Scott] God. (grunts) [Scott] So annoying. Well that was fun. Apparently you’re a much better pusher, than you are an actual tennis player. Great work. Sure.
– So salty over there. All right our man here is
discounting the junk ball. All right and a lot of you guys out there are discounting it as well, and it’s actually the hurdle
that’s keeping you guys, from moving up to that three five, four o, maybe even it’s a four
five, in our n t r p rating, and so let’s talk about this today. Let’s talk about how we
start beating these players, and the very first thing,
gotta stop being salty, alright?
(chuckles) – Step one, way less salt.
– Way less salt all right. And what I’m talking about is
it’s mental warfare, right? You dislike playing these guys so much, it’s an unorthodox way of playing and it’s not to your
enjoyment of the game, and so before you’ve even played them, you worry about playing them, maybe it’s a tournament, you worry about getting them in the draw. It’s USTA, you know that
you’re gonna play them, then you,
– the dreaded junk baller, – Yeah.
– Not in the first round. – And you’re like man I’m gonna be out there for three hours, I’m gonna have to do this, this, just slow down alright, and accept that the match
is going to be arduous, it’s gonna be difficult alright. Let’s put a plan together. So Scott, talk to us a little bit
more about this patience but one of the plans that
we’re gonna try to implement. – Yeah, so step two here, is to think about
something we like to call fast feet and slow hands. When we see these, junk balls, these floating balls coming with no pace, I think our brain kinda just slows down, we see slow ball our brain slows down, and that’s the opposite
of what’s gotta happen. Both our brain and our
feet, have gotta activate, it’s gonna actually probably
take you more steps, to set up for these slow balls and make the adjustments that you need, to hit the correct type of ball, that you’re looking for. – Yeah I mean that’s it guys. Like, when you’re rushing around and the feet are turning over, you can’t allow your
hands to speed way up, where you’re just making errors
and you’re losing contact, and your chin’s floating. So Scott’s 100% right here. Fast feet, slow hands, take your time. – Take us on with step three here, What’s the third piece?
– Yeah step three here, – How do I, so now that I’m doing that, I’m in a rally with you, still don’t know how to
win the point yet right? What’s the grand finale?
– Yeah we’ll be here endlessly right?
– Yeah. – All right, so, let’s first address how are we getting hurt
by the junk baller, right? It has a lot to do with angles. If you’re looking at getting the person stretched off the court, they actually like these angles, because they’re able to, to kinda play the push pull where they, they’re going deep, they’re pulling short, they’re finding the angle,
they’re wrong footing you, so angles aren’t necessarily
our best friend here. What I, Scott and I, when we encounter these junk ballers, one of our favorite
strategies we talk about, is just the battering ram, all right? And we’re gonna play big, heavy and deep through
the middle, all right? Because now there’s no angle. There’s no work for them,
– Counter intuitive I know, for a lot of you guys, you’re like that’s your
advice to beat somebody, is hit the ball to them in
the middle of the court? – Yeah, but I mean like
deep, either big and heavy, or through the court, all right? Because remember the goal here, is to take away the
angles from these guys, and if they drop back, right, they drop back to kinda defend this ball, they’re certainly not
cutting a lot of them, and if they are it’s going short, and now the really grand
slam of this whole thing is, you gotta get to the net, all right, so the battering ram, you push them back, you play them through middle, and you’re coming to the net, all right. Make them pass you, make them lob you. We’re not afraid of
their big power, right. So maybe it’s the lob that we fear but, if we know it’s coming it
can’t be particularly hard, with their overhead, right, so let’s take a look, at what the new strategy
looks like with us playing. Scott’s gonna implement
some of this stuff, so just to go over, you wanna knock out the bullets for us before
we hop back out there? What are they paying attention to? – Yeah for sure. So step one is patience. Just don’t freak out before the match. Mentally prepare. You’re gonna have a
battle here, it’s okay. When you’re on the court, don’t freak out. You know what you’ve got. Step two, fast feet, slow hands. Don’t freak out, put all of that, I guess excess energy into your feet. And step three, – The battering ram, right.
– The battering ram. – Play him heavy through,
– Right up the middle – The middle, yeah.
– Of the court, yeah. And we know it sounds a little bit weird, we’re gonna demo this for
you and you’ll kinda see, how this makes sense,
and just to also address, if you’re a lower level of
player and you’re thinking, Scott, Nate, I can’t
hit with heavy top spin or I can’t drive, deep through
the middle of the court, then what you’re gonna find is, the last piece here of getting to the net, and closing the point out
is how you’re gonna solve this problem of junk ballers so, let’s take a look at the
adjustments I’m gonna make now through a beat up on my junk
baller friend Nate here. – All right, let’s go. – [Scott] (grunts) (grunts) (grunts) (grunts) (grunts) (grunts) – [Nate] Yeah. – [Scott] (grunts) (grunts) (grunts) – [Nate] Yeah. – All right guys, so you can
see the adjustment there. Patience first, driving a lot of balls deep through the middle of the court, and then in the second point that you saw, when Nate’s popping that floater, I snuck in, took the ball out of the air, swinging volley, to win the point. I know a lot of you at home are thinking, Scott that’s great, I don’t play at a five
o, five five, level. I don’t have a swinging volley. I can’t drive deep through the court. It’s okay, the same
foundations still make sense. Do the best that you can, to drive the ball deep through the court, and not create too many angles, and when you see that floater, we still want you to come in
and take it out of the air, maybe it’s not a swinging volley, maybe it’s just more of a punch, but work your way up to the
net and close the point out. Nate, you got anything to add my man? – Yeah just remember guys, the reason these matches are hard against these junk ballers, pushers, is simply, because it
makes you uncomfortable, and the best way to get
good at being uncomfortable, is by playing more matches
that make you uncomfortable. Get out there and play more junk ballers. Get out there and play more pushers. Whatever the style is that
bothers you, do it more, so it’s not so scary, so you’re not losing that mental warfare. – For sure. All right guys, I hope this video helped, I hope you can get out there and beat some of these junk ballers. You’re probably noticing
as we’re coaching here, there’s a lot of different skill levels, that we would offer slightly
different instruction for, and the bottom line is, we
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  2. I consider my self a junk baller and recently played another junk baller. It took us 3 hour and 15 minutes to finish and the scores of each set weren’t even that close.

  3. I had success with giving low pace junk back to bring them into the net. Most junk ballers are horrible at going on the attack so you can usually stick it to them on next shot after, either lob or passing shot.

  4. I thought in the first video the junk baller was being more pro active and moving his opponent from side to side in the second video they hit the back down the middle with no pace. Kind of an unfair test?!?!

  5. The real problem is that American coaches all teach the same game. They spend all kinds of time on topspin stroke production, and once the student learns to hit the ball hard (off the coach's easy feeds), he thinks he know how to play tennis. These are "lesson players". They look good warming up, but get them in a match, and they are exposed quickly. The "junk baller" starts out by observing that tennis is a defensive game…if you can get the ball back consistently, you can win a lot of matches…..the vast majority of points last fewer than ten strokes (5 each). So the junker learns the most important things in tennis…how to get the ball back, how to hit it to spots where it is difficult for the opponent to attack, how to read the opponent and anticipate where the next shot is going…..These are the things that should be taught first……not perfect groundstrokes….that can come later……TENACITY and CONSISTENCY are most important. And MOVEMENT. What sets the big four apart from lesser players? They were the best DEFENSIVE players of their era. (Federer was also arguably the best offensive player, too, but his defense helped put him on the map). Their are different levels of junk baller. What they have in common is that their mindset is based on consistency and Control….not overpowering the opponent…An advanced junker CAN overpower people, but his main strategy is consistency, placement, and defense. He gets your serve back. He blocks back some of your overheads, he makes great gets, and great lobs, he drop shots late in long rallies, he follows the drop in, and bloops a volley over your head. They vary spin, or height of the ball. They TAKE AWAY YOUR GAME. You have only one or two ways of earning points…they have several methods, and they are constantly searching for ways to get you. I played a guy in the finals of a 4.0 tournament when I was 61. He was 20 years younger, maybe 25,very fast, very athletic, hit the ball hard into the corners consistently. Not much of a serve, but nothing I could attack easily…..I ran everything down for a set and still got bagelled. He relaxed, and I got up 2-0 quickly with some good serves' and a couple of cheap tricks…serving underhanded was one. He turned it around, though, and won 4 close, tough games. But then I noticed something…down 6-0, 4-2. The balls were getting slower after all those long points and I noticed that when I hit a SHORT forehand chop to his backhand (inside the service line), he moved in and just pushed it back…I also noticed that if I did this repeatedly, he'd make a mistake before I did. Then he realized what I was doing and started to panic…just a little. I was able to turn the match around, win four straight games, and win the champion's tiebreak 10-4. CONSISTENCY< DEPTH< PLACEMENT< POWER, FINESSE. Those are the most important things in tennis…in THAT order…The junker usually has at least three of these things over the lesson player…especially the FIRST one. BTW, a good strategy against the junker is to junk him. Junkers LIKE pace, they know how to re-direct it. Another good strategy is to loop the ball high to their backhand side. (I hate this)….especially if they have a one handed backhand. You can even move in behind that shot and anticiipate an overhead. IF you get them moving side to side, don't overhit. If you get a ball that you can hit to the open court, which would beat most players, it might not work here against a player with a good running lob….maybe hit that ball slower than usual, giving the junker less to work with…keep him running…wear him out…extend the point…when he sees that all his hustling is not paying off, he might fold quickly, or try a secondary strategy that he hasn't mastered as well…..

  6. The term junk baller is what gives junk ballers a bad name! That's why people are so salty. You could be the biggest power hitter of your club, but you only get 10% of the shots over and in. The junk baller could be the least powerful of the club, but gets 90% of their shots in. Who really is hitting junk in those two scenarios? Junk ballers tend to be really slow, consistent, and methodical. We hate them because they lack sheer power, but why? Each person plays to their strengths. Over time the junk baller will build power and the power hitter will build consistency. The end goal is the same, but the starting point is different. That's why you are the same level right now and playing together in this tournament. Remembering that is how you don't get salty and play your game and try to win.

  7. THE PUSHER MAN … "God damn the Pusher… God damn the Pusher Man."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqyGoE2Q4Y

  8. Very good. I like it. Sounds like I need to practice my overheads ad volleys. Reducing the angles is key.

  9. im a beginner and was called a junk baller so i had to look it up. i am not doing it on purpose lol.

  10. My biggest issue is warming up with these types of players. They are already playing these sorts of balls and I can't get into my rhythm. It feels like they drag my groundstrokes down to their level in warm up, and that makes the match really difficult. Any tips on that issue?

  11. Your suggested tactics are exactly what has given me the most trouble over the years when employed by my opponents. Excellent insight.

  12. Wow, pretty vague set of instructions. How about some insight to transitioning to the net and what constitutes a winning combination of shots. For instance- Deep approach to the bh if that’s the weaker side and short volley to the FH service box corner for the put away. Have you ever seen Bollettieri’s numerical target areas for winning combinations ?? You could emphasize how important the approach shot is when playing someone who’s strategy is founded on consistency, placement and variety. And that a premeditated finishing shot is critical vs last second decisions when the ball comes back. And the junk baller will always strive to make you hit one more ball. Finally I do have a question for you guys. Can you tell me the definition of a smart tennis player?

  13. Another tip for better , less fearful , tennis might be to try a softer bouncing ball. Like a green spot. This would encourage you to develop a bit more due to the bit more time on the ball perhaps ? This could help with a better shot selection other than a push , slice or junk ball. Just an idea.

  14. Avacardo's are junk balls. Quite why hipsters love them so much is beyond me? Please do a video on what you think makes them good….😀

  15. Pushers make you work hard on the court. That's probably why tennis players don't like playing against a pusher.

  16. For most of us rec players, our footwork mirrors the speed of the ball. When we play opponents who hit the ball slower, our feet slow down and cause us to feel like we aren't able to be aggressive with our strokes. One key is what the Nate mentioned here about having to move your feet with more steps to get in better position and force our strokes to keep up. The other point I liked is the slow hands part which keeps us from over-hitting on our shots and not beating ourselves. Excellent advice guys, Thanks!

  17. your unnecessary grunts are soooooo annoying i forget everything else….junk grunts helped you win

  18. The one tactic that works for me is hit heavy topspin and smash my serves and forey's in haha. Normally not recommended but it works for me

  19. I hate playing players that give me a ball with nothing on it. You definitely have to be patient, I’d hit every ball deep cross court if you can, with good percentage plays, and never miss till you can get the right ball! I just keep pushing them back till I can drop shot them or take a volley out of the air firmly, or if you can tee off on a forehand as hard as you can right at them without going for the lines on anything. Making your 1st serves helps too 80% of them out wide or to their backhand mixing the spins and speeds as well to really over well them! I’ve played these guys a lot over the years, they’re quick but not always quick enough!

  20. A friend of mine plays at the 4.5 level. When he plays with the 3.5 players, he would play like a junk baller and his opponents have no chance of beating him as he is 2 levels higher.

  21. If you cant beat a "junkballer" it means hes just better than you. Play variously. Play the style that will win against that opponent. Mix it up. If someone cant beat a 'lob', than do it.

  22. Just wanted to thank you guys for this outstanding video! I played a “junkballer” in my club tournament last night was dreading it and he’s actually won the tournament previously I used these tactics and won 6-4 6-3. The only other thing I added in was dropping shoting him sometimes after pushing him back.

  23. I wish I had seen this back when I played every day. One of the people in my league did nothing but lob and won almost every point lol. I was going nuts.

  24. if someones that worried about playing a player like this they dont have the tools to beat them. I suppose this is helpful for that person.

  25. If you want to see this played out at a high level, look up matches with Steffi Graf & Martina Navratalova. They were real ball strikers in a women's field full of pushers. (Some of whom were great players in their own right)

    Deep groundstrokes to the center & fast feet on the way to the net made them both the dominant players of their eras.

  26. Like all "junkballers" are the same entity…if they don't enrage your arrogance, many can also lull you to sleep and then pop a diving line drive down the line. Oh, hey by the way, calling them "junkballers" only fuels them…try deflating your language a bit too.

  27. Looking forward to trying it! I lose to one of these guys every time. Moonballing pushers are my nightmare

  28. I don't like how they treat a good technique as if it's a wrong way to play. If it's by the rules, it is a very viable way to play, especially since it seems to win so much.

  29. I have beaten people so much better than me by just doing this annoying three quarter Court shit and then every once in a while unloading Cross Court or down the line just to switch it up, I love it

  30. One question; why the grunt even when hitting the ball at 10mph? It that to deliberately irritate the opponent?

  31. I really like the advice, however, the one thing I would add is that defeating a junk baller often times requires you to be much better than your actual stated rank. I know that sounds crazy, as junk balling takes little to no skill, no athleticism etc. However it's true, a lot of people with real physical talent, real strokes, get matched against these cheese artists and begin to rethink their skills. They start asking questions like "am I that bad that I can't beat this troll?" The worst situation is a cheese cheater, or basically a junk baller that cheats repeatedly in events without refereeing. Another thing I would add is beating them with an immaculate service game. Obvious this is very difficult, but is effective as junk ballers are typically out of shape and will not be able to respond to well placed serves that are slightly faster than your peer groups average. Overall, great video.

  32. My overhead is shit and these guys always know how to lob but I find that their poor technique will eventually lead to errors if you keep getting the ball back to them. That’s my way but the great thing about junk ballers is that they always give you control of the rally so all you have to do is find the pattern works for you. Sometimes it’s counterintuitive like hitting up the middle but once you figure them out it’s over because they always have zero offense.

  33. Junk ballers feed on the corpses of players who think their strokes are better than they actually are. It’s a beautiful thing to behold.

  34. Good video thanks:)
    what about really slow exaggerated looping top spins that end up bouncing 6ft or really low skidding slices? Thanks very much! Hamish

  35. About 70% of my local tennis league are junk ballers. I am getting quite used to it (After many mashed rackets) LOL

  36. I feel like I'm a junk baller. I didn't know that… But I don't know how to change

  37. Thank you, for this lesson, it is really frustrating to play with these kind of "players" those who cheapen the quality of the sport.

  38. Rushing the net works well. Just think old school serve and volley, chip and charge. This counters their drop shots, dead balls and weird spins really well.

  39. Left out the most important thing: fitness. If you're worried about being out there three hours, you give the advantage to the pusher. They tend to be fit types to begin with, and the slow ball they hit gives them lots of time to recover without working very hard. I love the battering ram approach–wish I'd had a modern forehand in my tournament playing days. And high topspin to the backhand is often a good move as well.

  40. As a big time junk baller myself, I totally second all of the above. the best thing is to play up, and take as many balls in the air and hit hard. when I spin a ball when it bounces it can go anywhere, so that's why you have to take it in the air as much as possible. because i hit it soft generally I can place the ball very well and so if you play back and let it bounce I will have you running all over the court. my weakness is that I find it hard to return hard shots or shots with lots of top spin. i can always beat passive players, but the ones who get aggressive on me beat me fairly easily.

  41. Junk baller?? I'm offended! 😂 I genuinely feel you should use some other name. Junk ballers my friend, have much higher tennis game IQ than any of you hard hitting baseline players. We know how to win at the end of the day 🙂 and we are great at lobs and slices. Bring it on. 😋

  42. Today I had to play against one in the final at a local junior tennis tournament and it was easily the most irritating and least enjoyable match I've had so far. Anytime I hit the ball with even a little bit of pace he would make a horrible slice lob thingy or usually block it back short and low meaning I couldn't get much topspin on it. And the fact that my play style is more focused on power rather then control made it very difficult for me to get that shot back in the court so it would either go into the net, or way long. So the only way I could deal with it was to pop it back over, forcing me to hit a short ball which then he would hit more junk, or a flat shot barely over the net landing just inside the baseline for a winner. Leading up to the final match I felt pretty good because I won my 2 previous matches both 6-3, (we only play 1 set for a match because we're juniors), however against the junk baller I lost 6-1. Because of my weak mental game I had practically given up after the first few games, because I was just so full of frustration and just upset because it didn't even feel like a game. Easily the most painful match I've played yet, but too bad I haven't even been playing for a year yet so I'll probably have to play a lot more of them in the future. Anyway that's my rant over.

  43. Very good pointers! I play a junk-baller regularly at my club and I can't stand losing to him. I will give these tips a try.

  44. I realise the problem when i play with junkballer is I start to naturally do the same shit to them till I blown their mind. After a few points I realise I am a talented junkballer 😂😂 knowing that I start to remind myself i shld stop my bad habit 😂😂

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