Hi there, I’m Jeff Plumb from PingSkills. And I’m Alois Rosario. And today we are going to talk about which
bat you should be using when you are playing and learning table tennis. Hi Alois, tell us a little bit about the different
types of bats that are available. There’s a few different levels that we need
to think about. One of our biggest bug bears is that we often see players trying to learn
table tennis with things that look like that. So that’s a plastic moulded bat, it has absolutely
no grip on the surface. Whereas it’s OK just for hitting the ball nice and flat like that,
but you are going to find that if you’re trying to do any sort of spin, it’s just not going
to work. Similarly with a bat that has the pimples
and no sponge. We’ve got the pimpled bat with no sponge underneath as you can see. It sounds
like that, it’s just ball hitting wood. So you mentioned spin a bit there, is that
the biggest problem with these bats? Yes, that is the big key. When you are trying
to learn any of your strokes, it’s important to have an element of spin or the ability
to put a little bit of topspin or backspin on the ball with your stroke. That actually
gives you a little bit better control over the ball as well. As you get better and develop your strokes
more, then spin becomes even more important. Yes, that’s right. When we are learning at
the base level, we develop our strokes to look like a forehand, a backhand, we give
you the basic structure of the stroke. What we are trying to do there is to give you a
structure that you are going to be able to develop and increase in speed, length, and
develop it to a much higher level without having to change the actual stroke too much.
So that’s why at the base level, you need to be able to have that basic ability to generate
a little bit of spin on the ball. OK. So what we are really saying is if you’re
using a bat like these, get rid of them. They’re gone! Sorry. OK. Good. So if we are not using that type
of bat, what is the next step up? The next level that I see quite a lot of is
the pre-made bat that you find at a lot of sports stores, and at the start they are quite
OK because at the start they have some grip on the surface, they’ve got a little bit of
sponge underneath the rubber, to give you a little bit of spin. The only issue that
I have with these is that they wear out really quickly. Within a couple of weeks or a month, you’ll
find that like this one, the surface of the rubber has gone completely dead and the ball
just slides across the surface. So again the same problem here is once this
rubber is dead you can’t get any spin, and then it’s not really any good at all for learning
table tennis. So once you try to develop any topspin, the
ball is going to do that, and drop straight off your racquet. And we get a lot of questions from people
asking how do I get the grip back. You just don’t. Once the rubber is actually
dead, it’s gone and it’s time to replace it. If you rub your finger across the top of the
surface and it’s slippery just give it a clean with some water, if the grip doesn’t come
back, then I’m afraid it’s time to upgrade. And so we do see a lot of players using this
type of bat which you said is OK to start with but some people have this bat for like
5 years or even 2 years, and clearly that is no good. We get a lot of questions on ask the coach
saying I’m doing the strokes that you’re showing me but the stroke still isn’t working. And
often when we drill down we find the reason is that they might have had a reasonable bat
but the rubber has died and they’re trying to play their strokes, the ball is slipping
off and so they can’t learn the stroke correctly. OK. So that’s no good either. What is a good
bat that people should start with? So the most important part when you’re getting
a pre-made bat is to look at the quality of the rubber. The wood doesn’t really have a
lot of effect on the performance. It’s probably only about 10 or 20 percent of the performance
of the racquet. What your really looking for is the quality of the rubber on that wood. So you’re looking for a little bit thicker
sponge underneath, and as I said we are looking for that quality of grip on the surface of
the rubber to allow you to generate spin. So the big advantage of this type of bat,
which we call a pre-made bat, is that its got more spin. Yes, its got the ability to generate some
spin but its still quite a slow bat so its going to give you enough control to learn
your strokes playing the full stroke that we’re teaching you. OK. And it’s important to have that control
rather than go for a much faster bat because it’s something you need to develop your strokes? So often when we see players getting a really
fast super duper bat to start off with, they find that the ball is coming off their racquet
way too fast and what they end up doing is being really tentative with their strokes
and just poking at the ball and trying to push the ball back on to the table. As soon
as they try to do anything more they find the ball is flying off their racquet too fast
and they can’t control the stroke. So this is also known, as I mentioned, as
a pre-made bat. What does that actually mean? So a pre-made, all that means is that it comes
to you already assembled. It has the wood and the rubber already glued on to it. You
don’t need to do anything, you can just take it out of the packet and start using it. Great. OK. So how long should you go with
a pre-made racquet and when do you upgrade to what we call a custom racquet? I would say that this better quality pre-made
racquet should last you around a year, or a little bit more. How do you tell when it’s
time to move up? Well that’s a little bit harder. As a guide, what I say is that if
you’re playing your strokes correctly and fully, and also you’re moving your racquet
through quite fast, and you’re still getting most of the balls on the table then perhaps
it’s time to upgrade. So get something that is going to give you a little bit more performance
and a little bit more speed and spin with the strokes that you’re playing. OK and so on that upgrade path, we are talking
about a custom racquet, so what is a custom racquet and what are its advantages? The custom racquet, the only real difference
is the quality of the wood and the rubber starts to increase so we are starting to get
a little bit better quality wood and a much better quality of rubber on the surface. You
are also paying a bigger price of course when you start to go to the custom racquets. OK. And so with the custom racquet, you buy
the blade and the rubbers separately. Yes, so you can buy the blade and the rubber
separately. So this looks like it’s all put together. But you’ve got the wood and the
rubber. They don’t usually come off that easily, we’ve just tacked this on for now. So that’s what you would have. You’d have
the rubber and the wood and they are quite separate. You can buy the type of wood that
you want, and you can tailor it, a little bit slower, a little bit faster, all that
sort of thing, different feel, there is a whole lot of options. And then you can also get the type of rubber
that you want, so this is a piece of Sriver, which is one of the good basic rubbers that
we recommend to start with. And then put the two together and there you have your custom
made bat. Great. And so with the custom made bats, there
are various levels within that, like you mentioned the Sriver or Mark V are both entry, or not
entry but control rubbers. Yes so Sriver and Mark V are two well known
rubbers. There are a lot out there but they are just two that are well known that give
you good spin but also give you good control. Again when you’re still learning, that’s part
of the importance of what you are looking for. So you’re looking for something that
has some good control that allows you to learn and to develop your strokes. So as we mentioned, there are hundreds of
choices out there. We have the PingSkills Touch with various rubbers that you can get.
That’s a good custom made bat. It’s an all round blade, which we like because it gives
you good control. And then you can customise it by changing your rubbers and getting different
speeds depending on your playing style. That’s right yes. So within the custom range,
as we said there’s the Sriver and the Mark V which are good base level rubbers. Then
you can just move up and start to put different rubbers on. Another rubber is Yasaka Pryde,
which is a little bit faster than Mark V, not as fast as something like Vega Pro that
we recommend as the top level. But I think one of the biggest issues that
we see Jeff, is that we often see players trying to switch within levels. So they might have their custom made bat,
sorry their pre-made bat to start off with, and then they’ll go and buy a different pre-made
bat. Or they might have their base level custom made bat with Mark V or Sriver, and then a
week later they think oh no, I want to change, I need something different, I need something
new and they’ll get something in the same level but a different rubber. And so what is the issue with that? If they
are still getting good equipment, then what is the problem with switching? When you’re practicing and you have just changed
your equipment, as soon as you make a mistake your thought is, hang on, what that my technique
or was it the racquet? And often we go to, oh it must have been the racquet. So then
you haven’t got that consistency of learning and consistency of your stroke to develop.
There’s always that little bit of doubt. That’s why we say once you get a racquet within a
level, stick with it, play for at least 6 months to a year with that racquet, develop
your table tennis ability, then you can think about changing. Now it’s important to know about these rubbers,
that even at this level they do still wear out. Yes, so even the best rubbers will wear out
and we say as a guide, between 80 and 100 hours is how long your rubber will last. After
that you aren’t going to get the performance of the rubber that you really need. So it’s time to buy a new rubber, you are
going to have to replace your rubbers every so often. Yes, and so depending on much you play, if
you only play once a week for a couple of hours it’s going to last you the whole year.
If you play everyday then you are going to need to change rubber more frequently. OK. So there you go. There are a few levels.
If you’re starting out in table tennis, start maybe with a good pre-made bat for a year
or so, then you can move onto a custom made bat. Yeah so there’s the pre-made bat, and
once you’re on the custom made bat, we recommend that you start with a Mark V or a Sriver,
something that’s not too fast, and then if you still feel like you need some more speed
you can get a faster rubber. So they are your choices, find a bat that’s in your level,
stick with it, enjoy your table tennis, and you’ll really start to improve. Here I’ve got the PingSkills Rook which is
our pre-made bat with good quality rubber on it which we recommend when you’re first
starting out. Now the good thing about a good pre-made bat is that with the rubber you can
get topspin which means you can play your forehand counterhit, and then you can develop
it into a topspin stroke. So now I’m getting good topspin on my stroke and I can develop
it further and hit more topspin and hit the ball faster. So now I’ve got the two types of bats that
we said you really shouldn’t be using to learn table tennis And I’m going to show you why.
Just previously you saw that I was able to play my counterhit and then get some good
topspin on the ball but because there’s no grip on these, especially this plastic one,
it’s very difficult to even hit a good stroke. Here it just falls straight off so it’s really
hard and I definitely can’t play any topspin. This pimpled bat is a little bit better, I’ve
got a little bit more control so I can probably develop a counterhit but there’s no spin on
the ball at all so if I try and extend the shot into a topspin, it just falls straight
off, I get no spin, and it goes straight into the ground. You just can’t learn table tennis
with this type of bat. And here’s the bat that I use, it’s the PingSkills
Touch with good quality rubber on it. Now the best thing for me about using this is
that for the same sort of stroke I get more speed on the ball.

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100 thoughts on “Choosing a Table Tennis Bat | PingSkills”

  1. Thanks for watching! We have a whole series of videos on choosing table tennis equipment on our website: https://www.pingskills.com/tutorials/choosing-equipment

    Enjoy!

  2. You are calling them racquets but in table tennis aren't they bats because there don't have strings like a tennis or badminton racquet.
    (I might be completely wrong)

  3. I have been playing table tennis for long and know the basics can I use the pre made racket "Palio Master 2"

  4. Can you tell me that is Gki nano force is excellent or not if not then please suggest me a tt bat under 2000 rupees please?😎😎😎

  5. The Palio Expert 2 is a great bat for beginners. I was recommended it by my tabletennis coach. It's got great rubbers, a decent blade – and it's far superior to the majority of bats you find in sports shops.

  6. My racket feels really heavy after playing for 10 min and I feel pressure in my elbow. Which light wood would you suggest or is there any tips?

  7. Sir i have a joola carbon racket. I completed my state tournament and now I will going to play national tournament. So is there any need to change my racket.

  8. Should i get the killerspin kido 7p primium or the butterfly boll forte? my play style is offensive, i dont loop i drive the ball so that leads me to believe i should get a 7 ply paddle (killerspin) but when i drive the ball i put topsin on the ball too so that makes me think i should get the 5 ply (butterfly). any thoughts?

  9. Is palio legend 2 a good bat to buy, I'm playing table tennis for over 6 months now, Im using 20$ bat currently GKI kung fu dx, should i switch to palio legend 2?

  10. My Bat's rubber is Mark V Yasaka but , nowdays it is not spinning the ball much on the table . Do you have some tips for it??? Please

  11. Hello I'm using mark v rubbers on the both sides and want to upgrade my forehand rubber so which rubber I choose? Thanks

  12. what kind of play style would a paddle wit h3 wood and 2 carbon layers be for? drivers instead of loopers? blockers?

  13. rackets aint that important, i beat my friend who has a custom racket almost every time with a racket without sponge

  14. Hi pingskills,
    I have got myself palio master 2. It has cj8000 rubber. i feel the rubber is hard, and thats why when i try to hit with more power, ball does not lands on the table, also there is this rattle or 'chit' sound it makes, like a slap when this happens.
    I just want to know, is it because the bat is new right now and rubber will get soft after some time and thus sound will go. Is it normal? Or something is wrong with the bat.

  15. You might wanna add explanation about rubber thickness and how it relates to power and control and one's personal style

  16. Anyone trying to use a lighter racket that isn’t as heavy as those ones with the rubber? Well buy a rubber racket with foam underneath and peel the rubber off and use the foam. It makes the racket much lighter and gives you more of a top spin than using rubber

  17. I can t stress how important it is to have a decent bat with good quality rubber when you start tt. It s almost impossible to develop any skills with shitty bat. i learned this lesson the hard way. You don t need to buy a custom bat right away but as a general rule anything that s very cheap is bad.

  18. I am a beginner and was looking for technical info. This presentation failed to provide any technical details. What makes the bat "fast"? Why is the spongy part needed? Etc. And please, don't patronize… plastic bat… who does that? Surely that kind of folks wouldn't be looking for online videos.

  19. Hi
    I have started playing table tennis for about a year ago.I dont play full time but really want to improve my game. I have been using a cheap premade table tennis racket but now I want to buy a new Table tennis racket. I like to spin the ball and play offincive shots. I don't have enough idea which blade or rubber should I buy. Would you recommend me a good blade and rubber. You can take me as a ammature player who is trying to perfact his strokes. I would be really thankful.

  20. I'm in my early 50s & I'm playing since 1980.. I bought Carbon Bat because then I can Rip off my dead Rubber & Replace new without much hassle.. 😂 😉

  21. Is a donic Walder black devil with blue fire m2 for forehand blue fire m3 for backhand is a good setup

  22. I currently have new rubber well the tenergy 05 fx and my coach told me to upgrade my pimps with the TSP curl p-1r i hope i will become a better player

  23. I have a question. Should I get a paddle that has a high spin and control rating, and a low speed rating if I have trouble keeping the ball from going off the table. I play left handed but my power is in my right arm. I tend to use my backhand more and I depend on accuracy and spin to win. I'm no pro, but I'm also not a beginner.

  24. Thanks ping skills! Played with my first beginners bat for about a year and improved a lot, feel like this advice helped me a lot

  25. My racket has no sponge should buy a better one?
    And if you have a intermediate racket for about 30$ I would pleased to know

  26. All of these bats look like they’re smooth on both sides. Is there any place for pimpled bats in high level play?

  27. The first 3 are okay for playful ping pong
    But if you are wanting to learn better abilities, you Should get much better paddles in order to obtain basic table tennis skills

  28. I have the best pre made bat you mentioned. but I moved houses and I don't know where it has gone. I wana find it but it will probely take a while. Should I buy a other racket or should I try to find the one that I have? By the way it's a overall bat and its normal rubber

  29. Question: I'm going to buy a custom racket i will assemble it my own.
    Blade: JOOLA Falcon Fast
    Rubber: Galaxy Earth
    I don't know see any sponges only rubbers and blades. Does my rubbers have sponges in them already?

  30. I use gki euro V currently and it's price is 1500 inr and would like to upgrade, but due to financial situation can only buy a bat till 3500 inr. Please recommend a good bat.

  31. And a guy had just told me that someone had gone to nationals with the one of the racquets you threw away at the beginning of the video.. 😒

  32. How is effective this affirmation : the equipment factor represents 10% of the global result of any player ? Could you make the test , one of you use the crappiest versus the best racket …would talent overcome the bias ? Jeff plays first with the best.

  33. I'm not able to create spin in my bat. It is make of wood, 1st layer is of white thick sheet(maybe foam), 2nd layer of flat black and red rubber (without small pimples or grip) plz help. Can I create spin in this bat? Can I email you my bats photo? Do I need to change my rubbers??

  34. While choosing a TT racket keep in mind these three tips : a. The ball should spin a bit b. The ball should come out a bit fast & c. Last but not least the racket should suit your game 🏓

  35. Hi ! I just wanna ask for your opinion for a great set that I should buy.. I'm kinda confused in choosing the perfect blade for Yinhe Jupiter 2 and Yinhe Earth 2.. is it Yinhe Y-13 or Yinhe T-7s?

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